2012/10/01

The price of speed at sea

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The U.S.Navy's requirement for its new gold-plated frigates* has puzzled many observers. These ships can run at nice sea states with about 44-47 kts, that's up to 18 kts more than some established frigate designs.

You cannot run away from aircraft (including helicopters) or missiles with a ship, and running away from other ships is quite moot because weapon and sensors range and effectiveness de-valued this old concept a lot. Even a 29 kts frigate with relatively modest engines can run away from conventional subs in most sea states, and it's unlikely that running at high speed for long distances is a tactically practical approach for nuclear subs (the Soviets gave this idea up decades ago). The one remaining mystery is whether a ~45 kts top speed (in lenient sea states) helps enough against torpedoes to justify the expense. Torpedoes run -according to public info- at a cruise speed of about 30 kts (maybe a bit less) and sprint during the terminal approach at much, much higher speeds than even a LCS of fast attack craft would be capable (even a hydrofoil design such as the decommissioned Pegasus crafts). Torpedoes are supposed to not be detected (thanks to modestly small and silent cruise) until they're really close, so even the torpedo threat doesn't lift the mystery from the LCS speed requirement.

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Naval engineers can go to great lengths explaining how the huge engines and the high speed-optimised hulls require huge and unusual expenses and compromises. Their talk about shapes and stuff can be boring, though. I decided to show a historical comparison instead:

This is the Japanese small cruiser Chiyoda (1891)**. Nowadays a ship of its size (about 2,500 tons) would be considered a corvette or a very small frigate.

This is the U.S. destroyer USS Fletcher (1942). Nowadays a ship of its size ... oh, wait. About the same size as Chiyoda (2,100 tons).
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The Fletcher uses vastly more efficient oil-fuelled boilers and steam turbines than the Chiyoda with its coal-fuelled locomotive boilers and vertical triple expansion engines. The Fletcher also carries the burden of some electrical equipment (Sonar, Radar).

This doesn't really dampen the effect that I suppose a comparison of both ships' armament has on readers:

USS Fletcher 1942:
5 x 5 in L/38 caliber DP guns
4 x 1.1 inch (28 mm)/75 guns
6 x Oerlikon 20 mm autocannons (very light mounts)
10 x 21 in torpedo tubes
6 x depth charge throwers
2 x depth charge racks
So basically 5 medium velocity 5" guns and ten normal torpedo tubes.

HJMS Chiyoda 1891:
10 x QF 6 inch L/40 naval guns
14 x QF 3 pounder Hotchkiss guns
3 x 11-mm, 10-barrel Nordenfelt early machineguns
3 x 356 mm (14.0 in) torpedo tubes
Twice the gun armament, and a heavier calibre with longer barrels. Three what we would today call lightweight torpedo tubes.

The Fletcher's torpedo armament was about the equivalent of two more 5" guns in weight and weight distribution terms, so a ship half a century later was still much more lightly armed. The Chiyoda equipped with 1930s guns of same weight and size as its 6" guns would have outgunned the Fletchers by a large margin. This was possible despite 50 years of naval technology advance.

Well, what made this possible?

Basically, this was mostly about speed requirements. Chiyoda ran 19 kts (OK for its time), Fletcher 36 kts. Power requirements grow exponentially with speed, so every single knot added to a ship's speed over about 15 kts hurts a lot. A LOT.

Chiyoda had a length/beam ratio of 7.4, whereas Fletcher needed a ratio of 9.4 for its speed. Installed power was about 5,700 to 60,000 hp respectively.
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Chiyoda was a respectable light cruiser in terms of its main guns and their calibre (not quality, of course) by '42. Respectable light cruisers of that time usually weighed about 7,000 to 11,000 tons.

There may be some obscure, brilliant operational research behind the LCS' speed, probably about torpedo terminal manoeuvres. It would surprise since apparently no other navy came to such a conclusion, though.
The more likely explanation for the LCS' speed is that the naval bureaucracy got crazy and irrational, probably trying to sell the ships as sexy and 'never seen before' capable to the taxpayer - and top speed was an easily communicated characteristic.
We already know that the extremely lean crew concept is a failure; working weeks in excess of 70 hrs are exhausting the crews on the LCS prototypes even more than other lean manning attempts did on other USN ships. So we know the naval bureaucracy is not beyond doubt in its attempts at innovation.


In short: The LCS looks like a failure to me. 

Then again, the colonial patrol cruiser F125, the mechanics training ships K130, the shipyard subsidy program known as EGV are horrible failures as well.



*: Officially known as "littoral combat ship", because "littoral" was en vogue and despite it not being useful in combat for want of punch.

**: Or "protected cruiser". "small cruiser" points more at the mission, while "protected cruiser" is about the construction. Protected cruisers necessarily used coal as fuel, for they used coal as part of their protective scheme. Coal storage at the sides was meant to serve as buffer, where most smaller grenades can explode without doing much harm (combat ranges were short, so only vertical armour was of relevance, deck armour against grenade impact only became relevant in harbour sieges or after about 1900). The other type of cruiser was the armoured cruiser; it used relatively thick belt armour at the waterline to protect its boiler and engine rooms from grenade-caused flooding.
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9 comments:

  1. The carriers have never listed their actual speed. In general longer ships are faster: it is a matter of physics. The carriers with huge engines I have been told are the fastest ships in the navy.

    Possibly they are trying to get an escort for the carries that matches their speed. My guess is that it is an operational (versus tactical) requirement. Unless have a lot of help with terminal guidance, it can still be very hard to fire a missle at a target a 100 knots away, and get it within the cone of its effective on-board terminal guidance. The faster the ships are moving, the bigger the "lead" onto the target.

    Relatively slow moving submarines still have to get into torpedo range. Guessing the intercept course is more difficult with a faster moving ship.

    And of course I say all this from the (too detailed to be enjoyable) modern naval wargaming that I have done. None of this may be the actual reason why they want them to go fast.

    I tend to think of the littoral ship as an overprice gunboat. Too expensive to actually use as a gunboat. Of course if they use them as gunboats, and they don't get sunk, then they won't be a failure.

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    1. LCS was never portrayed as carrier escort and I would say, looking at the projected equipment they are meant to carry, their utility in that role approaches zero. From what I see, they were meant to be a force multiplier in sheer quantitative terms with "exciting new qualities", such as their speed, low cost due to manning and purchase price, and high flexibility due to their mission modules.

      As it turns out, their speed requirement has very little operational use and next to no rationale (missile and torpedo dodging are ridiculous as key design feature for an entire class, since those weapons likely aquire better seeker technologies before the majority of these ships is even in service). The manning has already been found to cause significant problems and will be adjusted. The mission modules are so far a complete disaster (in the way, that they dont exist, except in PP).

      This ship is a near perfect disaster in concept and procurement. Its for the USN, what JSF is for the Air Force and USMC (USN can mostly sit that one out due to F-18E/F) and FCS was for the Army.

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  2. It is clear the price of speed is very high.
    The last real naval combats we know about are from 1944. And then speed was important.
    Now it is debatable but it seems that the only navy which counts - USN - considers it is worth the price which has to be paid in lost capabilities. Going in and out of an actual combat zone fast might make a big difference in a real confrontation.
    About the PS we already had this debate on another post.
    1. the mechanics training ships K130 : yes it looks like a failure. But it was an attempt to make a technological leap.
    It is a small class so damages are also small.
    New rockets, new unmanned helicopters, it incorporated quite interesting ideas.
    The modular building of military ships is on the other hand a German peculiarity. It did not work until now. Probably there are some reasons behind it but they are unknown to me.
    2. the shipyard subsidy program known as EGV& the colonial patrol cruiser F125
    I do not understand what you meant by calling them failures.
    The reasons for their existence are political.
    The vassals have to contribute with military contingents to the wars their hegemon gets involved into. It is a very simple and old concept.
    That is why German colonial troops participate in US operations. And a navy contingent was probably asked for.

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  3. teo, my benchmark for success or not is the constitutional mission and raison d'être of defence. Those ships cost, but provide no utility for defence. This includes K 130, of course.

    K 130 was a bureaucratic response; the bureaucracy wanted to replace the aging composite hull 143A/148 FAC classes and didn't want to lose some of its size.
    Instead, they doubled down and attempted to get FACs replaced 1:1 with corvettes, expecting the corvette purchase to be cut. It was classic bartering by Niiskanen's bureaucrat.
    Utterly useless to the taxpayer.

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  4. Well in the end K 130 proved to be a failure. it happens with new items. It will happen again.

    Constitutional order and political reality do not always perfectly match in formal terms.
    Former German federal president explained before being booted out the reasons of the German contingents presence in American colonial wars.
    It was a good lesson for anyone talking outside the politically correct approved line.
    Germany in an inner province so its defence policy has to be thought in accordance to the security needs of the large entity it is a part of.
    DDR and its western cousin were frontier provinces of 2 opposing empires. Frontiers changed, one empire went out of business for a while for restructuring, and the newly unified German state became an inner province. This implies different requirements.
    From this point of view a colonial naval contingent is a normal and rational add to a colonial expeditionary contingent of the land forces.
    We are not presidents of republics so we do not have to be afraid of talking about reality the way which leads to presidents being punished. We are allowed to.
    I gave the above example because the constitutional order did not change. Neither the formalised interpretations of defence doctrine. And yet everything changed in the real world, on the ground.

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    1. Dude, stop the "inner province" bull. Germany has been a fully sovereign nation for two decades now.

      Besides, it takes a lot of irrationality to think that not having a huge threat next door any more means that one should now care about more distant matters that were ignored for decades at no cost.

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  5. Yeap. That is the reason why Georgian and Romanian contingents also could not ignore the distant dangers represented by the Gilzai from Jalalabad.
    Ro and Gerogian presidents understood this just like the German chancellor. And sent their troops to fight mullah Omar. For decades they had ignored that particur Pashtu tribe. But not anymore.
    Of course now hmmmm they are invited by the winning mullah to negociations.... or not. Hard to believe but he did not invite any lackey, sorry sovereign state. Hmmmm. Strange.
    Anyway we deviated. I explained that the reasons for the navy projects mentioned are entirely political.
    This view explaines perfectly the desired technical parameters. US navy goes massively to the Pacific so vassal contingents will have to take over secondary areas. Like the Indian Ocean where they already took over.
    It is nothing new.
    Just like in 1943 when German troops were fighting the Soviets at Kursk. While troops from the sovereign states of Hungary and Romania were battling the partisans - secondary areas.
    If I remember correctly they were pretty sovereign. Formally.
    This decade troops of sovereign Ro were fighting the partisans in MENA and Central Asia. But now troops from sovereign DE also came to help. DE changed its status in the interval. Lots of sovereigns around. This planet is crawling with them.
    K 130 is a technical failure. The others are part of the navy contingent for colonial interventions in secondary areas of the world ocean. If they will fulfill their missions or will prove to be technical failures we have no way of knowing yet.

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    1. (1) Many East European governments have the naive concept that sending auxiliaries somehow buys them U.S. protection, and the Americans are happy with it. This doesn't mean the East Europeans are addressing any kind of threat with their auxiliaries contingents.

      (2) German troops don't fight against a threat to Germany in Afghanistan. The Taleban were merely the hosts to some guys who told others to attack an ally of ours. The reason for why our troops are there is a combination of trying to buy a UNSC seat with auxiliaries, trying to fill NATO with life in order to preserve the comfortable transatlantic status quo and green sentimentalism.

      (3) I grow "not nice" when German sovereignty gets disparaged, so stop it now!

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  6. Cebrowski suggested motherships with some kind of small warship that could get lost - a submersible or a speedboat.
    The problem with US mentality is that from their outstanding quantity approach highlighted in a later article here, they went to gold-plating levels that threaten the old mass production concept.
    The LCS is a study of a light craft for coastal operations meant for mass production.
    Speed is a very interesting issue, there's crusing speed and sprinting speed.
    Cruising speed, range and endurance do translate into a presence at sea funtion about the capability to control certain sea spaces. The old Japanese design would be superior in a firefight, but no match in a sea control function. As of WWII much fighting had shifted to aircrafts and torpedoes with guns in an escort protection role. The speed of escorts then was related to the speed of aircraft carriers (related to aircraft launch speeds).
    Optimized sea-control ships are the US-coastguard cutters for example. These do have benefits from the use of hydrofoils(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Flagstaff_%28PGH-1%29). The LCS in theory is an in-between coast guard and warship for guarding not so friendly places. Theoretical top speed is nice and like thrust vectoring it can screw things up. The more interesting picture about the LCS are cruise speed, range and endurance of this corvette/frigate sold at an exorbitant price.
    The high costs of military hardware might have something to do with not having lost the Cold War in an economic meltdown. After the Clinton peace dividend the dollar-hungry military industrial complex returned.

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