tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post1389109766695834234..comments2024-03-27T20:37:08.065+01:00Comments on Defence and Freedom: New Russian Brigade TO&EUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-34293384905740334822018-03-06T14:18:03.489+01:002018-03-06T14:18:03.489+01:00This is from 09. They barely had any of those at t...This is from 09. They barely had any of those at the time. The Russians have improved their military equipment a lot in just 9 years.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16139317422628492600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-33134040470329788432018-03-06T14:14:30.477+01:002018-03-06T14:14:30.477+01:00At the time their NCOs were 2 year conscripts who...At the time their NCOs were 2 year conscripts who were deemed smarter than the others by their lieutenants. They rarely had what the west would call senior NCOs and they lacked low level cohesion as a result.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16139317422628492600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-51376160042287802262017-09-20T17:17:21.008+02:002017-09-20T17:17:21.008+02:00You didn't mention an electronic warfare batta...You didn't mention an electronic warfare battalion. Nowadays a brigade additionaly have an UAV company (with different types of UAVs), recon battalion instead of company and sniper platoon\company (roughly one platoon per motor rifle battalion). And an engineer battalion is bit different (all engineer platoons transfered from motor rifle battalions to additional engineer company, but all pontoon companies is transfered out to specialised engineer brigades).<br /><br />On C4I matter: current TOE differs from actial order of battle of a brigade with many units temporary grouped together under high-ranked officer of similar branch (for example, all artillery available) or are set under command of other units (for example, UAVs obviously never works as a whole company, but rather supporting several units at once under discretion of the brigade staff depending on brigade CO plan of operation at general and availability of intelligance and recon information at any given moment)васекhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10905936792622341519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-55259423372852729952017-09-20T16:47:09.147+02:002017-09-20T16:47:09.147+02:00They weren't really constrained in Afghanistan...They weren't really constrained in Afghanistan and Chechnya with this. There is no need in large infantry blobs when you got plenty of automatic weapons and indirect support on call. You know, if you have an arty battalion for every infantry battalion, you can always count on fire support.васекhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10905936792622341519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-17809580782741852842017-09-20T16:35:26.889+02:002017-09-20T16:35:26.889+02:00Artillery and AD units are notsupport' troops ...Artillery and AD units are notsupport' troops in Russian point of view, but rather 'main' units of different branches working in cooperation for the main efford of a brigade (destroying of enemy forces in an offence or defence and holding ground). So 'supporting' troops are only engineer battalion, NBC units, recon coy (battalion, actually), maintainance and supply units.васекhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10905936792622341519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-51383865624154356192017-01-10T18:04:35.963+01:002017-01-10T18:04:35.963+01:00Actually they way Russians operate their combat ba...Actually they way Russians operate their combat battalions doesn't exceed their span of control. Three of the four tank companies are usually attached to the infantry battalions and the fourth is general reserve. In case of two tank battalions probably one whole battalion would be attached to INFBATs and one whole battalion as general reserve or for supporting breakthrough. <br /><br />The single biggest flaw is head to tail ratio with deplorable amounts of infantry. With approximately less than 600 rifleman the brigade can't sustain heavy casualties on infantry and will rely very heavily on vehicles as is evident by the amount of tanks and such. A single Finnish jaeger coy will have as much infantry as Russian motorized battalion. Obviously the difference in firepower is huge. The mere 600 rifleman each have over 7 soldiers supporting them; 600 frontline inf and 3900 supporting troops. TehFinnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-9096166075003288352009-10-18T16:19:31.223+02:002009-10-18T16:19:31.223+02:00Russian motorized rifle brigades have always seeme...Russian motorized rifle brigades have always seemed rather light on actual rifles (dismounts). With only 21 per platoon, and ~60 per company, it seems like they would be very constrained for any op that doesn't look like a Fulda Gap dash.B.Smittyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12650152449414871058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-1318013002419304852009-10-14T20:10:23.677+02:002009-10-14T20:10:23.677+02:00Have to concur with EN here, not much fundamental ...Have to concur with EN here, not much fundamental change beyond a re-shuffling of the old regimental battalion-sized cards.<br />I found interesting that there would be a separate medium-range SAM battalion. SA-8/15 used to be division-level only in the (publicly available) late-80s TOEs. Potentially a useful move, reminds of reflexions about fighting without air superiority already mentioned here.Lambdanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-13026246647141385162009-10-14T15:11:06.500+02:002009-10-14T15:11:06.500+02:00Decon is a good idea for many purposes, even ones ...Decon is a good idea for many purposes, even ones completely unrelated to NBC problems.<br /><br />It's good for delousing, for example (if the unit is prepared for it).<br /><br />You won't see such needs if you only do exercises for a few days, of course.S Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03359796414832859686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-65864589315067158712009-10-14T14:29:01.652+02:002009-10-14T14:29:01.652+02:00I like that they keep an NBC company in the brigad...I like that they keep an NBC company in the brigade structure. In the US Army, you get a pair of NBC recon vehicles. That's about it. Maybe a decon platoon will be chopped to support, but only if it's a really big exercise and the reserves are participating.J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01031567700911395326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-61848605906499324852009-10-14T01:35:25.161+02:002009-10-14T01:35:25.161+02:00Not too different from the old regimental structur...Not too different from the old regimental structure, but with more artillery. The Russians love their artillery as much as the US loves air power. I'd prefer organic firepower, but my countrymen disagree for the most part. <br /><br />Notice there's not much in the way of maintenance and it's all kicked up to Bn? That cost them dearly in Afghanistan and it had to be added to each company as time went on with a small "section" in each maneuver company devoted to towing, and repair of vehicles. This same lack mechanics was felt by the US in Vietnam. <br /><br />The lack of recon is intentional. The second company of each Bn is trained in Reconnaissance. Some of the Russian army accounts of their adventure in Georgia always had the second company leading the way. <br /><br />The lack of C4I is standard Red Army. A Bn commander and his XO were expected to plan most operations with a staff of less than five people, including them. They really don't appreciate lower level units getting too complicated by design. Maybe they're right? <br /><br />All in all, it's not too bad, or much different.ENhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12193563623321560413noreply@blogger.com