tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post4891705238666862803..comments2024-03-27T20:37:08.065+01:00Comments on Defence and Freedom: A thought about individual camouflageUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-82710100548475124172013-11-11T22:20:47.966+01:002013-11-11T22:20:47.966+01:00They're not irrelevant, but they're not en...They're not irrelevant, but they're not enough to reach the best level of camouflage. Patterns are always going to disappoint in comparison to a 3D camo set using the same colour palette.S Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03359796414832859686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-75131618251206362362013-11-11T22:02:48.448+01:002013-11-11T22:02:48.448+01:00This shows only one thing: camouflage patterns hav...This shows only one thing: camouflage patterns have been tried in actually serious wars and have been found to be pretty much irrelevant for objects smaller then 2.5m in diameter. However it's a great incentive to sell new uniform sets again and again once in a while.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-58097235986158183062013-11-06T01:40:25.205+01:002013-11-06T01:40:25.205+01:00Just buy some tonnes of cheap plastic christmas th...Just buy some tonnes of cheap plastic christmas threes to practice with.Rettawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-60291069175049517222013-11-05T15:28:09.464+01:002013-11-05T15:28:09.464+01:00You really only need to make sure your NCOs unders...You really only need to make sure your NCOs understand the issue and then keep them ambitious (which is a junior officer and senior NCO leadership challenge).<br />Competitions can help to make the enlisted personnel ambitious and motivated, but they're not a necessity.<br />As usual, many free-play exercises, diverse training environments as well as training outdoors almost all the time would help a lot.S Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03359796414832859686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-44613039527831181162013-11-05T15:21:32.980+01:002013-11-05T15:21:32.980+01:00Sadly I don't believe the Anglo-American milit...Sadly I don't believe the Anglo-American military mind would grasp and accept such a concept. Continental European armies have traditionally shown themselves to be more forward-thinking in this regard, note the official adoption of camouflage elements from 1916-1939 by some European and the Soviet armies. I believe that the current perception of what the Infantryman should be will hinder such a development amongst even traditionally progressive elements.<br /><br />Naysaying aside, practical concerns:<br /><br />Oversuits and reversible smocks are still workable even with modern overloaded infantry troops. The Soviets cut theirs quite baggy to assist in camouflage, as doing so helped break up the outline. The Russians continue to do this and I know from experience it is effective. The problem becomes tailoring, as wearing such garments under modern equipment leads to the fabric bunching and creating pressure points that can be very distracting. If you're in a situation where you no longer notice them, you may also miss that they can cause blisters which can become infected, which can require medical evacuation if it gets severe enough. Traditionally the reversible smocks and the like have ties or elastics which bunch them up appropriately in areas for use with belts and more traditional LBE, but become difficult to deal with using other equipment. This is a relatively simple thing to fix.<br /><br />Some will complain that the oversuit is not integrated with the complex "soldier clothing systems" we're seeing propagated in a big way since approximately 2006. This is simply false, they just don't think the smock is tacticool.<br /><br />A complete redesign of combat equipment would be required to facilitate better camouflage for combat troops. The ballistic protection and carrying pouches are the most complicated things to camouflage and some nations have equipment which is so prominent that the patterning of trousers and jacket is almost irrelevant compared to the pattern of the BA and LBE.<br /><br />How do you propose camouflage be practiced? I have noticed that in small training areas, having successive training waves using natural cam means that you end up with an area denuded of branches and brush very rapidly and some piles of dead foliage near staging and ENDEX areas.NWnoreply@blogger.com