tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post7683264196249993794..comments2024-03-29T13:09:31.522+01:00Comments on Defence and Freedom: Erdogan's new grand strategy for Turkey?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-32168768336788462132011-01-16T11:40:26.054+01:002011-01-16T11:40:26.054+01:00There s also a cable on this in the wikileaks port...There s also a cable on this in the wikileaks portfolio. Interestin in that it makes some assumptions how the shift in policy affects the EU:<br />http://213.251.145.96/cable/2010/01/10ANKARA87.htmlaassddhttp://none.tonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-45024688593674723672011-01-14T09:48:14.494+01:002011-01-14T09:48:14.494+01:00Far earlier than anything Merkal said in her last ...Far earlier than anything Merkal said in her last campaign.<br /><br />The EU has simply been stalling for time to avoid saying no.<br />The Secular Turks lost a great deal of support meeting EUropes demands, reasoning that gaining EU membership would cement their power forever.<br />Since we had no intention of ever giving them membership regardless of the hoops they jumped through, Erdogan took power against his weakened opponants.Domohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240964731398145995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-23633809480151270422011-01-13T22:06:48.902+01:002011-01-13T22:06:48.902+01:00sven
you are right: merkel never openly aired any...sven<br /><br />you are right: merkel never openly aired any anti-Islamic sentiment. <br /><br />however the cdu promoted the 'europe is christian' and whole debate about 'leitkultur', jewish-christian roots and so forth alongside the open and outspoken opposition to turkey joining the union was ripe with an implicit anti-islamic message that was well understood both by muslim migrants and right-wing germans. still both demographics voted for her.<br /><br />besides that: my point being that sarkozy and merkel traded in turkey becoming part of europe for elective gains.<br /><br />historically this might well been a turning point towards a weakened euorpe and strengthened islamic middle-east.<br /><br />and religion as a source of legitimacy is nothing good in my book.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-57371472364961121762011-01-13T20:19:19.889+01:002011-01-13T20:19:19.889+01:00I don't recall that Merkel promoted any anti-I...I don't recall that Merkel promoted any anti-Islamic sentiment ever.S Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03359796414832859686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-5839402460205380142011-01-13T17:27:25.946+01:002011-01-13T17:27:25.946+01:00europe lost turkey and its a pity. sarkozy and mer...europe lost turkey and its a pity. sarkozy and merkel are to blame betting on anti-islamic sentiment (europe is christian) in their election campaigns.<br /><br />this a pitty and bad news and to be read with the wikileaks documents on erdogans 'neo-ottoman' ideas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-386077914312449748.post-46681895057037270862011-01-13T14:25:46.590+01:002011-01-13T14:25:46.590+01:00"we should most certainly be friendly to the ..."we should most certainly be friendly to the project of a Turkish/Arab union once it develops."<br /><br />absolutely, but i fully support the british position of admitting turkey into the EU.<br /><br />that cypress could veto such an action is a failure of the EU rather than turkey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com