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I wrote about extremist warfare in 2009. The idea was that maximalist war objectives such as total annexation or unconditional surrender raise the bar to victory because they provoke maximalist hostile efforts. The effect is that wars are unnecessarily long and destructive compared to the case of more moderate objectives.
Now I'd like to point out something similar:
Some countries becomes extremist in response to being under attack. They have the legitimate and legal right to self-defence, but then they just keep going, inflate and exceed this right, up to "forever conflicts" where supposedly all military action for all eternity isjustified by the original offence.
I strongly suppose that the right to self-defence ends when the hostilities have ceased (including blockades and occupations by the aggressor being lifted) and only renews when a new aggression occurs. Any remaining entitlements to compensation of damages is then a legal affair that does not justify violence.
Examples for such forever conflicts:
- American derangement about the Iranian embassy crisis
- Israeli conflicts with Syrians, Palestinians, Hezbollah
- The Frozen Korean War (some people pretend the lack of a peace treaty means an attack on North Korea would still be legal)
- The American sustainment of their conflict with Iraq from 1991-2003
I wanted to raise awareness about the problem and shed some light on it, but the latter intent is difficult to realise. I simply don't see any justification for such an open-endedness of a right to commit violence.
Proportionality is for all I know a universally accepted principle in law. An aggression from decades ago that was already punished ten times over cannot possibly be considered to justify further violence. It would simply not be proportional. And I'm not even discussing the "ten times over" part, right now I just take offense at the abuse of the "self defence" or ' UN authorised military action' authorisations of violence by pretending that they are endless.
We should go beyond accepting that self-defence is a right and pay A LOT more attention to the limits of self-defence. Civilised countries did this in criminal law, it's about time the public does it in regard to military actions (and subversive, sabotage and assassination activities).
You are talking to americans, people who have serious problems with the concept that non--americans have rights to begin with. Not that they're much kinder to their countrymen - they thÃnk prison rape or self justice is acceptable so long as the victim seemingly comitted some minimally deplorable crime. Note how the phrase FAFO "fuck around and find out" is becoming popular lately, it is stated in the same mentality.
ReplyDeleteIt's not just about rights or interests of foreigners.
DeleteThe Phony War on Terror's near-forever wars (mostly Iraq & Afghanistan) did (or will) cost the Americans about five trillion dollars and distracted many scarce engineers and other smart people from useful activities.
"You are talking to americans, people who have serious problems..." Guessing that you are a european and laughing at the absolute mess that you europeans have made of Europe, Africa, the Middle East, the Indean subcontinent, Asia, and South America.
DeleteMost of those areas are prospering nowadays.
DeleteThe American disregard for other peoples' rights is expressed openly
- people supposing human rights only apply to citizens
- the current violation of habeas corpus for people deemed to not be citizens
- frequent illegal drive-by shootings with cruise missiles (and recently B-2s)
'Unconditional surrender' was a 100% appropriate response to both the National Socialist regime in Germany and Imperial Japan. Both political structures could not be trusted to maintain any peace treaty, and the atrocities inflicted on both subject peoples, as well as the populations of both peoples were extraordinarily egregious.
ReplyDeleteThe demand for unconditional surrender encouraged resistance and demotivated internal opposition at least in Germany. It was a gift to the nazi leadership. Four weeks later the German leadership proclaimed total war (total mobilisation of all resources for the war effort), something it hadn't done earlier due to fear of reaction by workers.
DeleteLikewise, the Japanese kind of didn't have a concept of surrender. They could have been brought to peace much more easily with a less extreme demand than surrender.
One could have demanded a withdrawal from the continent, dismissal of South Pacific island holdings, a limitation of warship sizes to 3,000 tons, a size limitation for shipyards up to 10,000 BRT cargo ship size and banning multi-engine aircraft production and multi-engine military aircraft, for example. Threat of instant energy embargo & blockade in case of violation within 30 years.
BTW, there was no demand for unconditional surrender of Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potsdam_Declaration , but the effect was similar.