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It's not worthy of a separate blog post, but I'd like to point out that the Würzburg knife attack incident was a bit strange. I failed at my quest to find a list of names of people who faced the attacker instead of running, but I found photos and videos. Those photos and videos appear to be sexist, for every single person who faced the "knife"-armed attacker seemed to be superficially identifiable as a man. I read of women running to businesses for safety, and of men arming themselves with everyday items, keeping the (apparently crazy, not religious) attacker in check till the police arrived. The police shot once at his leg. (They did not shoot 17 rounds centre mass - and guess what? Shooting the leg once did work just fine! There's no death penalty in Germany, so killing cannot be the objective or considered appropriate if it's avoidable without further harm to others. Dead people are furthermore poor for interrogations.) I haven't found anything about who shot, but count me sexist-biased for thinking it was a man, too.
The ancient and possibly hard-wired predispositions and behaviour patterns may be a lot more relevant (and at times useful) than the talk about genders of the past 10+ years made believe.
And to the anon reader who keeps insisting that we're all mentally too soft for true soldiering nowadays: This should kick off a re-evaluation.
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source.wustl.edu/2021/07/microbially-produced-fibers-stronger-than-steel-tougher-than-kevlar/
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I think they missed the right weight class. Payload should be enough for casualty evacuation (if not moving mountain infantry from ridge line to ridge line at 2,000+ m altitude).
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https://mysite.science.uottawa.ca/rsmith43/Zombies.pdf
So this is clarified, then. You see zombies, u kill 'em.
The true zombies (also these) are very different and do very real damage, of course.
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[German] vice.com/de/article/4avx83/agentur-fazze-youtuber-lugen-uber-impfung-sputnik-v
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[German] twitter.com/useronline1/status/1414207597608116224
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Kurz gesagt; die etablierten Medien haben ihn lange davor geschützt, dass mehr CDU-Wähler merken, wie katastrophal er ist. Sie sind aber vor kurzem noch lebhaft auf den Zug der völlig offensichtlichen Springer-Schmierenkampagne gegen Baerbock aufgesprungen.
Unterdessen offenbahren die Grünen sich mal wieder als undemokratische weil sexistisch-diskriminierende Partei. Artikel 21 Grundgesetz verlangt von Parteien, dass sie innerlich demokratisch sind. CDU, CSU, SPD und FDP sind das auch nur teilweise (Abnickvereine, bei denen z.B. die Führungsebene beschließt, wer Spitzenkandidat wird), aber sie sind nicht so plump-blöd-offensichtlich undemokratisch wie die Grünen.
Von den Interna der Linken habe ich keine Ahnung. Die Rechtsradikalen sind immer noch keine wirklich funktionierende Partei, da kann man mit einer Beurteilung wohl nochmal fünf Jahre warten.
Nebenbei, ich hoffe auf eine Ampelkoalition (nicht weil ich die Wirtschaftslobbyistenpartei oder die Verräterpartei oder die andere Verräterpartei mögen würde, sondern weil unbedingt der schwarze Totalstopp-Bremsklotz weg muss). https://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/
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>>>And to the anon reader who keeps insisting that we're all >>>mentally too soft for true soldiering nowadays: This >>>should kick off a re-evaluation.
ReplyDeleteIf you take a closer look and also listen to what some of the men say (hearable in some of the video stuff) you would notice, that this men are nearly all not ethnic germans but foreigners or from foreign origin. And you underestimate the cultural differences between the people living in germany. The differences are greater man most germans realize, in both directions, for good and evil.
I have personally seen in the last 6 years in two cases in which refugees (from afghanistan and from syria) which has come to germany after 2015 instantly fought to protect a german women and in the other case german children. Nice, isn´t it? In both cases several ethnical german man stand there and did nothing or the run away. There are many more such examples. The same in würzburg.
The majority of them looks German to me. The media picked some migrants who opposed the attacker, for they were particularly interesting. Most of those who opposed the man were not interviewed for TV afaik.
DeleteI'm not going to give YT any correct personal data, so I cannot look at better videos than this one.
Some years ago I wrestled a mentally handicapped person in the center of Munich, who tried to hit an old man. A number of men came to my support, including native Germans, although I didn't care during the situation. We were able to defuse the situation without anybody getting hurt or calling the police. We talked the man into calming down, clarified the misunderstanding between him and the old guy and and he showed his disability passport. It's possible that migrants like myself have a higher likelyhood to engage in such situations, but native German men definitely do get involved, which also includes me as an "Aussiedler".
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DeleteAs an "Russlanddeutscher" would you agree that germans from russian origin are more likely to fight (on average) than germans which have no migration background?
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Imo there are always exceptions and for sure not all ethnical germans are peaceful, but overall, in the average there are statistical signifikant differences in the area of violence. The criminal record shows this very clearly in which people with an migration background are extremly overrepresented. Moreover from kindergarden to school to university to society: Violence is generally outlawed in the Federal Republic of Germany and it is constantly being dealt with with psychological manipulation and influence and nudging etc. Today's young Germans without a migration background therefore have the lowest juvenile and violent crime rates of all time in this country. One can approve of that, but it also means that they are far less able to use serious violence themselves where necessary. Whether such a qualification will still be so relevant in the emerging machine warfare is, of course, another question.
Young men with migration background tend to be from low income families, with poor education success themselves and have a perception that the job market is discriminating against them (except in the quasi parallel job market of the minority-owned businesses).
DeleteYou're describing the higher bias for violence among poor, low education achievement people, not migrants.
Your assertion that it takes violent behaviour in the past to show violent behaviour when it's actually needed appears to be unfounded. The typical mass-killer American school shooter isn't exactly the bully type.
My experience with migrants in martial arts was underwhelming. They didn't cope well with getting hit repeatedly through lousy cover in kickboxing or getting folded like origami paper by more experienced girls in ground fights. Not one of them joined training halving already a decent punch, kick or cover.
Young Germano-Turks practice violence as an extension of loudmouthing, and preferably with multiple older brothers and friends in their back.
I see absolutely no superior qualification for army-style combat in that.
Besides, real world experience shows that male recruits like tough basic training, that competent NCOs can form most civilians into useful soldiers in weeks and that the most effective infantrymen are smart men under 30 (unmarried for assault, married for defence or in desperate situations). Never have I ever seen any hint in literature that civilian life violent behaviour was ever identified as helpful for performance in military combat and I definitely read too much literature of the kind that would have pointed such a thing out!
I'm not a Russlanddeutscher, but I know some. A key difference could be that migrant children are brought up more self-reliant in their problem solving, while native German kids are taught to get specialists for the task (repairing their bicycle for example). An upbringing that fosters a sense of self-reliance might be more likely to intervene themselves instead of calling for outside help.
DeleteIt's true that lower tier schools see more violence and have more migrant kids, some of whom dabble in martial arts. But kids with an interest in martial arts can also be found at higher tier schools. The difference is that the kids from higher tier schools utilize these skills less everyday, because they have better control of their impulses and know other ways to solve problems.
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DeleteI do not tolerate lying, so I deleted that comment. Anonymous lied by totally misrespresenting what I wrote about training. He/she/it can play such strawman games with others, but I don't play along.
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Opinions on crime statistics doesn't matter, and you don't back it up. Here's an intro on how complicated the topic is:
https://www.bpb.de/politik/innenpolitik/innere-sicherheit/301624/migration-und-kriminalitaet
Feel free to just take that link at face value, for I am not motivated to look up citable sources for what I wrote about crime stats.
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DeleteThat is bullshit. Not possible and this shows clearly that you are only an theoretican with no practical experience in infantry combat.
LEARN TO READ before you accuse me of bullshit.
DeleteThe world consists of facts, what garbled nonsense you imagine does not matter. So PAY ATTENTION to reality, such as what exactly someone has written IN REALITY, not in your inattentive prejudiced mind.
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ReplyDelete-The police shot once at his leg. (They did not shoot 17 rounds centre mass - and guess what? Shooting the leg once did work just fine! There's no death penalty in Germany, so killing cannot be the objective or considered appropriate if it's avoidable without further harm to others.-
This sentence shows clearly that you know near to nothing about police work and police shootings. Moreover it shows a a surprisingly large lack of knowledge about the use of firearms and their effects. It is an remarkable and very rare exception that it was possible here to shot the attacker in the leg. In most such cases this practically impossible. It is even possible here that the police officer even did not aimed at the leg but missed his target and hit the leg so the end result would be pure luck. I know another such case which was celebrated but was in reality only pure random.
Also shooting at persons as an police officer has nothing to do with an death penalty. I wonder how you can even choose such words. The target of the standard police shooting is according to the law: to shoot the perpetrator incapable of attack. Even if you shoot someone in the leg this does not make an attacker incapable of further attacks for sure (in many instances the attacks go on) and moreover also an shoot in the leg can very easily kill an attacker (there are big arterie in the leg - death through bleeding). If the death of the attacker is the result of this shooting, so be it.
Moreover in other cases the police is explicitly allowed to kill the attacker and then this becomes the target of the shooting (Finaler Rettungsschuss). Such a targeted lethal shot is absolutely legal if it is the only means of averting a current danger to life or the current danger of serious injury to physical integrity.
So if the live is endangered or there is the danger of a serious injury, it is absolutly legal for the police to kill the opponent if that is the only possibility in this moment. The basic right to life is correspondingly canceled by these legal regulations.
The death penalty part was written with experience in mind. I've seen right wingers express disappointment that the suspect wasn't shot dead in comments of just about every video showing some violent criminal. (American?) rightwingers even complain when mere (brown-skinned) thiefs don't get killed in a video. A certain American demographic thinks that looking suspicious while black is enough reason to kill the person and nothing short of killing it is a satisfactory outcome.
DeleteI know that police forces have an atrociously poor accuracy with pistols even at 10 m distance under stress and this particular blade-wielding suspect was likely a very easy target judging by the video.
I also know what to expect when such a video is linked on an anglophone website.
Keep in mind this is not a German forum (and even there you'd have to expect AfD/NPD types commenting).
I had to expect
- "monkey" remarks and certain word creating way beyond the "N"-word
- regrets that the man wasn't killed
- muslim hate comments
So maybe now you see that this wasn't about the German domestic perspective or about police regulations and lingo. I secured my flanks against racists and violence fantasies while trying to raise a point about the effect of biological predispositions even in a modern society.
Ok, i understand and got the point. About the precision of pistols: 10 m is a wide distance for an pistol and most people do not even understand this. Pistols are close combat weapons and in an real situation it is extremly difficult to hit on distances like that. Soldiers in the average shoot even more worse than police officers and that is one reason amongst others that i am against the distribution of pistols for every soldier (as it has become the standard in many western armies in foreign assignments (and also at home).
DeleteBut German police also has machine pistols (usually one MP5 for two police officers) and since few years some assault rifles (usually from one up to four per normal police inspection with more in barracked units.
In such a situation like this the machine pistol is the best choice and every standard police officer can hit someone in the leg with an machine pistol at this distance very precisly. The main problem here is an reluctance to take the submachine gun with them and use it at all. In many instances police officers do not use the machine pistol although it was available and although they could have done that.
Especially in germany there is also an bad tendency to shoot not even in cases in which shooting the attacker would be much better or even in cases in which shooting would be the only logical and absolutly necessary option. German police officers shoot far too little in reality (in comparison), exactly the opposite of other countries where too fast and too much shooting is done. That does not mean that it would be better or would be good in Germany, but that it is also a problem. In some cases the German police try not to shoot even if their life is in danger or the life of others.
The way I see it, the party "Die Linke" is the only major party with internal democracy, maybe in order show, that they are no longer the SED.
ReplyDeleteHowever, rather than being an asset, this seems to be a liability, with internal conflicts (like calls for Ms. Wagenknechts resignation following the publishing of her book) coming to the public eye and the general impression being, that they are fragmented and don't really know what they want themselves.
Apparently, German voters prefer unity within a party over party-internal democracy.
News media calls every visible dissent a "Streit" and treats its as something undesirable. Multiple candidates for a single chairman position also gets reported with a negative narrative instead of as democracy at work.
DeleteThey also pretend that the cabinet decides about lawmaking, normalizing the ongoing violation of the separation of powers.
The so-called journalists are doing a disservice to society and democracy in many ways.