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Suppose a man gets killed in his home. He had a long and violent dispute with his neighbour.
Should the police investigate said neighbour as suspect even though his grandma was murdered 80 years ago?
Or does this mean the neighbour cannot be guilty?
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If the dead guy broke into his neighbours home and raped and killed the owners daughters he probably had it coming.
ReplyDeleteYou reap what you sow.
Thanks or the reply, but regrettably, you didn't 'get it'.
DeleteYou're supposed to stay inside the model. To leave it is a refusal to think about the model presented. That's an intellectual failure.
Your attempt to widen the model was primitive and not well thought-out. I strongly suspect that you wouldn't like the consistent real world application of your own model.
And all neighbours hates this dead guy, except some summer kids from another country, who event see this guy.
DeleteWell, I couldn't help but notice that your model conveniently left out that the man engaged in some very unsavory activities right before he got himself killed (not to mention he had issues with everyone, basically all his neighbours distrusted that guy and under no circumstances wanted to interact with him - even built a big fence to keep him away). So I decided to add that vital piece of information. Sorry if that lead me to a different conclusion than the one you had in mind.
DeleteThis is a model to think about one specific thing, and you fail to do it. You take it, run away and think about different things.
DeletePeople who are trained in thinking in such models (and in ceteris paribus) can see a giant machine, zoom their mind in on one of a thousand levers and ask themselves what this particular lever does - without thinking about all the other levers, buttons and valves.
This may be a matter of education or training, but it appears that this blog post was simply not for you, for you cannot make use of it. You're blathering about levers, buttons and valves that are simply off-topic and you fail (or do not want to) think about the one lever that's on-topic.
Sure I could leave out all the other information we know, in which case yes, if you leave out literally everything outside the model then the neighbour should be investigated. However this model has so little bearing on anything it is basically useless. Unless of course you were actually talking about some random people and not international relations.
DeleteIf however we are talking international relations, I don't think people who are against intervening are letting Israel get away with its activities because of the Holocaust. I think it is because of how the war started and the fact people are realising there will never be a peaceful solution to this conflict. Personally I've stopped caring about people halfway round the world slaughtering each other, my only fear is that our retarded politicians think we should take in refugees.
The other facets are off-topic.
DeleteSometimes it's necessary to investigate an issue bit by bit to understand clearly.
This is a blog, not a comprehensive book.
I intend to write about another facet later, building on a ~15 years old blog post.
Looking forward to reading (and potentially debating) it, even if we probably don't agree on said conflict ^^
Deletehttps://defense-and-freedom.blogspot.com/2025/08/the-finiteness-of-self-defence.html
DeleteNot sure what the other Anon is smoking, but here's my take.
ReplyDeleteThey should be investigated. To imply they shouldn't because of what happened to their mother 80 years ago, means they are being treated as a group rather than individual, and the victim's individual right to justice is denied for said group, something largely incompatible with modern law.
Frankly, this whole thing reeks of collective immunity and punishment, something every civilized nation has abandoned.
Yes, and I sense that this self-evident thing has almost been pushed out of our reality by narrative-building in a famous particular case.
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