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So as it turns out, the Russian armed forces are just marginally better equipped qualitatively than the Red Army in 1989. There are a few thermal sights, a few better radios, some better air defence missiles (that still hardly ever shoot down drones that are less than the equivalent of a WW2 fighter) and their primary self-propelled gun is a little better than the standard of 1989.
Seeing this, the Western defence sector of the past 30 years suddenly looks utterly idiotic. The phony war on errorists with its occupation wars and assassination wars was a stupid distraction, and everyone willing to open the eyes knew it. But now it seems as if practically all talk and efforts regarding modernisation of our armies of the past 30 years was as idiotic as an asylum inmate shouting at and fancily decorating a wall. We never needed or had much use for any "leap ahead", "revolutionary", super-networked, artificial intelligence, offensive cyber, hypervelocity missile, railgun, battlefield laser weapon, C-RAM hard kill tech at all.*
We could literally deter the conventional Russian military power with a fourth of NATO's current ground forces head count in Europe, mostly equipped at 1989 standards (upgraded with mid-90's anti-tank tech) if only we had also stocked enough munitions & spares and provided good training to this force.
Instead, we followed the promises of high tech like total idiots and wasted hundreds of billions of Euros in Germany alone (and 10+ trillions $ in the U.S.). There are even fools who brazenly claimed that we weren't spending enough when it was (even before the war) obvious that our budget allocation was the real issue, not the (actually huge) budget size.
Years ago I did warn (and I'm too lazy to look up when exactly) that we overemphasise the technological and material side because the industry sells it, while it cannot make as much business with simply giving the army enough good training. I also criticized an infatuation with prestigious big ticket programs (though mostly in the air & sea context).
The current political climate appears to be in favour of doubling down on the idiocy of this previous generation instead of seeing what the Ukraine War 2022 really is; the exposure of the conventional might of Russia as extremely 'disappointing' and hardly standing a chance to defeat even only a third of EU or European NATO.
It IS a return of conventional warfare (again, after 2008), though. This means we should fix some neglected areas.
- We should get training quantity right,
- we should get training realism right,
- we should make training comprehensive (including all wartime tasks),
- we should get the spare parts supply & stocks and thus technical readiness right,
- we should get our munition stocks right,
- we should re-establish useful battlefield air defences of a new kind and
- we certainly should kick out everyone who's not serious about the army's real mission.
What we don't need now is a Leopard 3, more Pumas, more Boxers and the like.
We can turn away from 95% solutions towards affordable 80% solutions that work. The only somewhat realistic conventional threat to us free Europeans right now is a very weak (compared to NATO), backward country that's looking forward to years of economic disaster. The two potential other threats are far away and not targeting us at all right now.
The cost reduction of such a paradigm change would not be a mere 15 per cent points. The drop from seeking 95% gold plated solutions to working affordable 80% solutions enables a cost reduction of 60...90%. You may have seen footage of Ukrainians destroying Russian tanks with Stugna-P missiles. Those actually cost less than a NLAW or Javelin missile (or what Germany is buying; Eurospike a.k.a. MELLS). The guidance principle is intrinsically cheaper than Javelin's, and those missiles still seem to blow up their MBT targets.
The only powerful "but" that I see here are
- obsolescence of old equipment (inability to get spare parts produced)
- Russians being occasionally delusional about how crappy their army is, and thus possibly not deterred without an impressive show
The obsolescence issue doesn't mean we need to replace unsustainable kit with gold-plated kit, period.
The deterrence value should be achievable by letting the world see the performance borne out of robust kit, reliable kit, ready kit, much training & good training.
High tech fever isn't the only pathway to being impressive. For example, I wrote about a militia. Imagine we had in Central and Eastern Europe 500,000 militiamen at the budget expense of 30,000 full-time active duty troops, and those 500,000 militiamen had 5,000 ManPADS, 20,000 mortars and 200,000 MBT-busting (but cheap) anti-tank weapons. These quantities could be purchased with 5...10% of Germany's annual military budget and last for 20 years (the mortars for generations). We could have exercises that prove 400,000 militiamen actually show up for duty on a weekend every fourth year or so. That would require a tiny fraction of our current military budget in European NATO or EU and it would convince everyone who has the tiniest bit of an idea about occupations that Russia could not successfully wage war against us** without adding much quantity on its own. No high tech would be required for this.
To waste resources on ill-advised military spending is like robbing from the own nation; the arms industry is the only special interest benefiting from it (at least in the short term). We could have invested the wasted funds into mastering other challenges instead (keyword opportunity costs).
This war shows that we have spent foolishly because spent for the wrong war and against a threat of largely imaginary quality. It's always a good time to turn smart about spending. Sadly, this war triggered primitive impulses that lead us down a path of wasting even more resources. We're turning crazy-stupid like the Americans did after 9/11.
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Disclosure: I myself did overestimate the Russian armed forces as well. Most notably, I was sure that they had some unpublished ace in the sleeve regarding tank survivability, but they made apparently no progress whatsoever after 1987. I also did not anticipate that their tactical air force would be this inconsequential to hostile ground forces. I was quite a high tech fan by 1998, recovered a little from that and had returned to very demanding (including technically demanding) concepts by 2009/2011.
As a saving grace, I did in the past push back against the pretence that the thousands of Russian tanks in storage were relevant and I pointed out repeatedly that Russia's armed forces were outnumbered 2:1 by European NATO and the EU (then still with the UK). I also pointed out once that their logistical vehicle situation was troublesome (for them) and that there was little reason to believe that their corrupt government was any more efficient with military budgets than Western governments.
*: The only tech advances in army tech of the past 30 years that really, really mattered were introductions of new anti-MBT tech to defeat the Russian 1980's tank survivability advances (which we made 15+ years ago already), hard kill active defences for tanks (which we didn't introduce in quantity), widespread use of better night vision and especially thermal imagers and possibly also a greater proliferation of voice radios in the infantry.
**: I mean this militia in addition to substantial land and air forces, not as an all-alone defence. I'm making the case here that shiny high tech delusions have a cheaper deterrence value substitute.
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Russia's performance is currently underwhelming. What room for improvements do you see that would turn them into a more capable opponent to realize the territorial ambitions they have beyond Ukraine?
ReplyDeleteSame as after the disasters 1939/40 and 1941:
Delete- improved morale when troops begin to believe they're defending the motherland
- outside material help to compensate for shortcomings of Russia's industry
I'm planning to write a whole blog post about all the historical Russian/Soviet weak spots that the Russian conduct of this war is reminding me of. Those are multi-generational constants that won't be reformed away without Russians ceasing to be so Russian.
"I'm planning to write a whole blog post about all the historical Russian/Soviet weak spots that the Russian conduct of this war is reminding me of. Those are multi-generational constants that won't be reformed away without Russians ceasing to be so Russian."
DeleteDon't duplicate the stuff. :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJkmcNjh_bg
The guy is really good and comes with a different POV to very similar conclusions. Check his last few slides and some of the first ones, he is talking about providing an analysis of economy of a longer war as next contribution...
You may also like this:
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i agree that the west overestimated the russian armed forces, but one factor that you are missing imo is that the military strength necessary for deterrence is significantly smaller than the strength necessary to actually WIN a war. Deterrence is a very cost effective strategy. I think this conflict has shown, that the russian state is not a very rational actor and that specifically president putin might not have a very accurate view of the world and of russias strategic situation presented to him.
ReplyDeleteThis raises the chance of Russia starting a war it cant win. And in this case it is not enough for the west to make russia bleed, we need to be actually able to evict them from every square meter of nato and eu territory. The military budget needed for this is far higher than the budget needed for deterrence.
I expected that in any moment somebody would start talking about deterring or fighting China as part of NATO commitment, but it seems I was (gladly) wrong.
ReplyDeleteJM
https://defense-and-freedom.blogspot.com/2018/11/natos-boundaries.html
Deletehttps://defense-and-freedom.blogspot.com/2017/07/just-reminder-about-north-atlantic.html
>>>This means we should fix some neglected areas.>>>
ReplyDeleteBy the way: your areas would cost at a minium 2% of the BIP over the next 10 years and around 250 billion euros over the next 15 years- at least. (there were calculations how much enough training, ammunition and spare parts would cost in a structure which is able to fight in a real war).
Everything you mentioned is very expensive. But it would be the right way and the right investment ! Instead of investing in High Tech, we should invest in training and enough munition etc, that is for sure correct.
So your article is one of the best about this topic i have ever read.
Well, keep in mind I'm not a fan of continued existence of a German navy, not a fan of the F-35 purchase, not a fan of maintaining a large medical branch, not a fan of continued existence of army rotary aviation.
DeleteI proposed a cut to six brigades and there are some more factors how total costs can be reduced.
Overall I am convinced we can actually stay well below the ten-year military budget assumptions as of late 2021. We just need to cut away what we don't need.
By the way: what do you think about the so called Nukleare Teilhabe, which was the main driver behind the F-35 deal?
DeleteAbout reducing the costs: of cause you can spare much money in several areas, but serious realistic training, enough spare parts and munition and the necessary areas one have to strengthen (UCAV / Loitering Munition, Artillery, Air-Defence, Electronic Warfare etc) all cost much money. So even if you end the german navy, outsource the medical branch into the civilian, end all manned army aviation and cut the actual 7 brigades to 6 brigades (so you spare only 1 brigade) - even then the costs would be substantial.
Therefore i doubt that we can stay below the budget assumptions. That makes everything you mentioned here not wrong and if we do not cut many areas and reduce the total costs drastically we will imo not be able to finance the necessary reform.
Cutting costs in one area and investing more in other areas is imo the way to go.
About Nukleare Teilhabe see
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and this 3-part series:
https://defense-and-freedom.blogspot.com/2019/03/nuclear-deterrence-for-europe-part-i.html
Short-sighted thinking. If the West rests on its laurels then there is scope for opponents to learn and improve while we are patting our backs saying "Job well done". Also, we cannot depend on the enemy screwing up to make things easy for us, nor can we trade lives as grievously as the Ukrainians have - a factor not much covered yet in Western media. Furthermore there is clearly a place of "high-tech" weapons development - Bayraktar, NLAW and Javelin are weapons without direct equivalent in the Russian Armed Forces and have proven their worth. Imagine then the effectiveness of the rest of NATO's full arsenal of advanced weapons. F-35 would have made mincemeat of the Russian IADS and air force, then systematically eliminated the ground forces like 1991 all over again with SDBs.
ReplyDeleteHence I only agree that training and readiness must be emphasised in NATO. I don't agree that further weapons development can be relaxed.
The Russians don't need Javelin, their Kornet and Krizhantema missiles are great. But you need much more than the missile to make it hit.
DeleteYour comment lacks any thought about "how much is enough". I say much less is enough, if used well. Question is do you have any such point?
"I say much less is enough, if used well."
DeleteMost European navies don't contribute much at Europe's defense, to start with. This includes the Royal Navy too.
The structure of navies generally seems outdated. Too few escorts for real escorting or cordoning, for example. Amphibious warfare ships of marginal relevance for defensive wars. Surface fleets refusing to accept that air power reigns over them. Submarine fleets refusing to accept that they're a niche for areas where friendly airpower doesn't reach (that's basically nowhere in Europe) and mere sparring partners for ASW.
DeleteI'd like to see a coastal lane security system with land-based assets reaching from Copenhagen to Gibraltar, and solid ASW blocks at Bosporus and Gibraltar. Add a concept for how to get convoys in and out on routes to Cape of Good Hope and Cape Horn every couple weeks and we'd be set.
I'm fine with British, French, Dutch and Spanish spending a big share of their military budget on maritime defence. It just makes no sense for Germany, Poland, Romania & Bulgaria. It doesn't even make sense for Norway, they should focus on infantry + artillery + land-based air defence and trust the Allies with air & sea. The Allies can get air & sea power to Norway much easier than land forces and delivering land-based air defences by air lift is near-suicidal if no air defences are in place already.
There might be an error in your thinking. You assume that our Western alliances hold. Investments into naval capabilities by a number of these countries are also investments into situations, when the alliance shatters. I don't think this is an outlandish assumption. It just takes an election of someone like Trump to have the NATO countries opposing each other, where friendly countries can not be counted on to provide naval services. How to structure a navy that helps in such a catastrophic situation is a whole different matter. We might not be well adapted for the changed realities, because of inertia in procurement.
DeleteI was like you. I have been saying the European NATO / EU is more than enough for Russia for a looong time.
ReplyDeleteInterestingly most people still have cold war perceptions despite getting born after the end of it. Russia is not the USSR, it is not a military superpower.
Though it was a mystery how Russia was maintaining such a large armed forces with a $1.8 trillion economy. It became obvious it can't
Russia has domestic production of much of their equipment and if you consider the purchasing power parity, then Russian investments were in equivalents several times higher. On the other hand, a significant part of that budget was misappropriated to finance luxury assets in the West that have been or are being seized. For this reason, I think an iron fist event possible, where Russia curbs misappropriation and launches further attacks to fulfill their geostrategic dream borders. It's dangerous to underestimate them.
DeleteOf course it is dangerous to underestimate Russia. It is a large and powerful nation. Also, it still has a lot of potential with its size, natural resources and human capital. After all, we are talking about the nation who reached the space first.
DeleteThough we can not ignore the Russian Federation's unsuccessful existence. I don't think they will be as relatively powerful as the Russian Empire or the USSR unless they drastically reform themselves.
And of course it is also important to not overestimate Western power. A NATO-Russia war would still be hideously costly in terms of lives and costs even if it doesn't go nuclear.
"where Russia curbs misappropriation and launches further attacks to fulfill their geostrategic dream borders. It's dangerous to underestimate them."
DeleteRussia is economically weak, the "only" issue for the west is to maintain economic sanctions for some years, there is no way Russia is able to gain startegic freedom again.
You can't be a military superpower without economic base.