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It's one thing that the interests of the rich get overrepresented in a democracy, but foreign influences have become too harmful as well.
Taking the case of Germany:
The Russian influences (including the still-not-closed 'Russian House' in Berlin) on certain political parties (BSW and AfD more and differently than SPD, but in regard to scaring also influence on the CDU) has become a topic of public debate, but there are only marginal visible political actions against it.
The American influence is difficult to see because it was so obvious. The grand strategy of West Germany was Western integration, with emphasis on being allied with th U.S. and reconciliation with France. The 'Atlantiker' network is powerful among politicians of the long-established parties and especially among decisionmakers of the political media. IMO the American influence is now reduced, but it's still giant in regard to use of American bases in Germany for their war of aggression, their support for wars of aggression and genocide of Israel and most of all, the limits of what ideas people may have have been cast by decades of 'Western integration'. Almost nobody in any position of power thinks about substantially opposing the U.S., regardless of what it does.
The Israeli/Zionist influence was built on holocaust guilt and on the same propaganda that other Western countries were fed, including that Israel is always the side that got attacked or was about to be attacked - even if actual historians vehemently beg to differ. This influence is extremely powerful in the political media, where it exploits virtue signalling and desires to feel superior (ethically). It's not so much influence via money as in the U.S., but almost entirely narrative dominance and fake ethical superiority. There's substantial domestic support for Zionist causes from Jewish citizens, but I don't think it's an essential component any more. Thus I count it as a for all practical purposes foreign influence.
We appear to be subjected to terrorism. Germany experienced 'lone wolf' terrorists strikes in recent years, usually briefly before state-level or federal-level elections. This pattern has become statistically implausible and is very suspicious. Moreover, these terror attacks mostly have one effect; more political support for the AfD, for their bogeymen (Muslim migrants) hatemongering gets supported. Russia is under suspicion of orchestrating these terror attacks. This is something that you might even read in establishment political media, but there's another possible explanation (potentially acting in parallel) that's still in the realm of conspiracy theories: Israel is under suspicion of being behind ISIS, was revealed to be somewhat behind Hamas, many of the suspicious 'lone wolf' terror attacks in Germany were ISIS-linked, Israel is supportive of the AfD out of shared hatred for Muslims, was born by terrorists and is under suspicion of having terrorised Jewish people in other countries to motivate them to become Zionists and emigrate to Israel. So basically, Israeli 'intelligence' may have orchestrated terror attacks in Germany as well. The public wouldn't know even if German police figured it out; the influence is such that it would be covered up by our establishment.
At this point I am completely fine with
- minimising those countries' diplomats in Germany to single digit skeleton crews of known actual diplomatic personnel
- expelling their citizens (save for those who were granted political asylum, double citizenship holders and the few accredited diplomats)
- telling double citizenship holders to chose exclusive German citizenship, lose it or keep double citizenship but stay out of Germany
as simple measures with great (not 100%) effect. They would also set the narrative to more people understanding that these powers are not friendly to Germany.
These influences do in my opinion explain European foreign policy paralysis much better than the absence of a EU foreign minister and ministry. Foreign policy is policy to represent the own interests (including indirectly, so also in support of other parties' interests at times). To be paralysed in foreign policy means harm to us, so we need to shake these influences off.
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P.S.: There's a by comparison marginal influence. Many Turkish-Germans with German citizenship are beholden to Erdogan. That's IMO of marginal relevance by comparison, but it might become a substantial issue sometime in the future.
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Ah yes, islamic terrorism in Germany isn't a muslim immigrant issue, it's a russia and/or israel issue. Seriously? I'm no friend to either of those countries, especially tired of Israel lauding the holocaust over us despite their own issues, have been of the opinion for quite a while that foreign wars on other continents shoudn't overly concern us (only really possible if we remove the "right to asylum" from the constitution and only grant it to people from close to home and not every random african or middle-easterner who rocks up on our borders), but this whole blamegame on anything other than the people engaging in terrorism is getting ridiculous. "We don't do enough for integration", "Its the evil right wingers driving people to this", "RuSsIa iS MeDdLiNg iN oUr eLeCtIoNs!!!111". We can never admit that multiculturalism is simply a failed ideology and the problems we face will only get worse until we end up like Lebanon in a couple of generations, always blame everyone and everything else. Pretty sure those giant concrete barriers around my local christmas market last year was not due to rUsSiA.
ReplyDeleteAs for our politicians being stupidly beholden to israeli interests, I think thats kind of a boomer thing, in younger generations it's decreasing rapidly, so we just need to wait for old politicians to die off/be replaced.
Shouldn't kick out the americans, despite their flaws they are still mostly allies, just don't get dragged into their foreign adventures. And don't piss off Trump, if we want to be more independent and have less american influence, wait until someone more stable is in the white house, though in general your whole "kick everyone but a skeleton crew out" is a bit extreme.
Russian influence is in my opinion wildly overblown, BSW and Linke just never got the Memo that it's no longer the USSR and they no longer need to suck up to russia (also america bad, therefore russia good which shows the level of intellect at play), and on the right every criticism of sending our limited weapons and money to Ukraine immediately gets you called a russian puppet when its usually just a (in this case) mildly misguided attempt to put our own interests above foreign squabbles for once in our lifetime.
Think I may have misunderstood your whole "kick people from those countries out", do you mean kick out all american citizens because you don't like their foreign policy and influence over our politics?
And your final point also doesn't make much sense (imo), these double citizenship holders can keep their german citizenship but must stay out? Change constitution and remove citizenship from those who refuse to renounce foreign citizenship. Thats less extreme than some of the things you're advocating for in this post ^^
Well now you're going off the deep end.
ReplyDeleteThe problems many germans have with immigration are manifold, terror attacks are just one small facet. That russia, let alone israel are behind it (and that the latter would be hidden by german services!) is basically conspiracy theorism. You seem like someone faced with the fact that most people simply are no longer OK with rampant harmful immigration and now grasping at straws to blame anyone but your own failed ideology.
(I broadly agree with anonymous on this - europe has the prospect of becoming lebanon. That IS to be avoided by any means necessary, more so even than becoming a russian puppet once more.)
Also I do agree that germany has too little distance from US and israel (in many ways) but the idea that expelling people would solve that is laughable. It's a deep political, economical and military issue that has to be alleviated through long term political campaign and geopolitical strategy.