2015/11/17

"... which the investigation will help establish"

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“It is an act of war that was committed by a terrorist army, a jihadist army, Daesh, against France,” Mr. Hollande said, using an Arabic acronym for the Islamic State group.
“It is an act of war that was prepared, organized and planned from abroad, with complicity from the inside, which the investigation will help establish,” he added.

I have a really, really, REALLY bad feeling when politicians blame a favourite bogeyman for an act of terror and know in advance what investigations will reveal.



I'm beginning to fear that this time much of Europe will go nuts.

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6 comments:

  1. I do not know what it is like in Europe. Here in Canada, our public broadcaster is interviewing people who are saying things like "we need to think about how ISIS *wants* us to react, and then not react that way". This gives me a small measure of hope.

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    1. http://boingboing.net/2015/11/16/how-terrorists-trick-western-g.html

      Well, the current published opinion mainstream in Germany is depressing. Merkel appears to stick to her lesson of 2002 (when she supported the Iraq Invasion and got in trouble for it), but lots of hysterical loudmouths and emotion-centric people with an insistence on symbolism are dominating the airwaves.
      It may be one of the six week fashions that easily go away like the initial immigration wave nonsense, but this may just as well stick, with hysterical becoming the new normal.

      I already blocked half a dozen comments here of people who wrote racist and genocidal BS.

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  2. To the anonymous commenter who got his comment blocked because of calls for ethnic cleansing:
    You should at least look up what I wrote before making up a fantasy version of my opinion on the migration issue:
    http://defense-and-freedom.blogspot.de/2008/11/immigrants.html
    http://defense-and-freedom.blogspot.de/2015/04/a-comment-on-maritime-migration.html
    http://defense-and-freedom.blogspot.de/2015/09/something-for-foreign-readers.html

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  3. In case of the Sarajevo murder in 1914 your comparison with Iraq 2003 is unfair and not correct. What the Austrians found was less worse than the reality, the aspects are nicely discusse in "The Sleepwalkers".

    The crucual difference between 2003 and 1914 was that in the latter case there was no UN or other organisation which in principle could have been used as some kind of international court of justice.

    Ulenspiegel

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  4. This is how conspiracy theories start, reasonable people can't believe the overreactions is for real.

    No idea who they could attack in response even if they wanted. The Toyota plants would probably hurt them most.

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  5. Disclaimer : I'm french, so potentially biaised here.

    I don't have the exact timing, but it seems that daesh communicate and the french president communicate where published at the same time (or near enough).

    It's not too much of a stretch to say :
    - the french government was aware of the daesh communicate before the public, and before the french communicate
    - the modus operandi used point to french terrorist (no or few foreigners)

    So, in this case :

    “It is an act of war that was prepared, organized and planned from abroad"
    => justified by (inside ?) informations of the government (publicized by daesh in the next hours or minutes)
    "with complicity from the inside, which the investigation will help establish”
    => likewise, justified by the preliminary identification of the terrorists (french).

    The witch hunt is real (see : multiples police operations at the moment, in all the europe). But this communicate is not to blame, because it's based on available informations for the presidency.

    The real problem is not there, but in the discourse of yesterday. Like in january, exceptionals laws are passed, which are stripping us of more and more liberties.

    Example : "state of emergency" was declared following the attacks. This is a specific case, properly defined in our constitution. But, a lot of the exceptional powers of this state of emergency are already available to the governement due to the several anti terrorist laws passed since 2001. And what is the first response of our government ? Modifying the constitution because the state of emergency (at the moment) doesn't seems enough.

    Even when the president admitted that no law could stop the terrorist attack of last friday ...


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